Number 4 broaches something I was thinking about adding to my crit but ultimately didn't 'cause I was on the fence about it. Two days does feel a little long but at the same time, there's a lot to sort through during investigations. I don't mind games where evidence can be missed but without the ability to do checks or search for evidence in trial, it can put more pressure on players not to miss anything so they'll want to be more thorough. Being more thorough means spending more time on investigations, so they'll naturally run longer (and, thinking of it now, I think I prefer noon instead of 6pm for this reason—though it also depends on which timezone is most common among your playerbase. I do feel bad for people like Cally who are PST if you go with noon, but I've seen some investigations last until 8PM or 10PM and if you push that same amount of time with a 6PM investigation, you're gonna run into the early AM hours like midnight and 2AM).
Investigations going long is especially true because you can't do checks or collect more evidence at trial. When you have trial as leeway, I think having a short amount of time or being less thorough while investigating is okay. Or at least not as potentially harmful. But since that isn't the case here, it is going to be harder to either think of what we might possibly need to check for (also note, some players won't want to do every check simply because they're afraid of finding the culprit early). Especially if characters want to do room searches for 20 people. That's something players need to coordinate among themselves, of course, but it's still a significant time investment that can take away from investigating other areas.
This seems like a good place to add this too, but I think adding in alibis to the Truth Bullets will simultaneously complicate it but also help make it so solving the timeline solves the "who?" That said, there's not really a good way to collect alibis for a massive group of people. Particularly when you give them the good ahead to post whatever they want—in my experience, alibis are most thorough when they're submitted to mods for approval. Otherwise, players tend to be vague because they don't want to overlap with the culprit and that makes them pretty useless.
I guess this is like like a +0.5?
Since I'm here, I think I wanna weigh in on Cally's B point too. I don't necessarily think you have to give everything on a piece of evidence without prompting, but I noticed you guys rolled to see how much someone got (I think from the body?) and I'm not sure that's a good idea. I don't want to go on too long about it since I'm mostly just adding opinions onto Cally's crit, but sometimes players want to check for evidence or check the body when their character isn't necessarily suited for it. Sometimes it's because they want to try it 'cause it looks fun, sometimes it's because another player with a suitable character isn't around. I know by rolling you guys mean to give players a chance to get additional information they wouldn't get otherwise, but at the same time it feels like it's punishing players too if a character more qualified just... happens to not be around because of OOC reasons.
If it helps, one of the things I kept in mind while running investigations in Uki was "characters have eyes." This is a written hobby, yes, but those words are being used to paint a picture of a scene. If the words you're using aren't depicting things that should be immediately obvious to anyone looking at it, it's best to consider rephrasing. There is some leeway here though. Like, obviously most people can't tell the difference between postmortem wounds and antemortem, but in those scenarios you can describe them in a way where it's obvious that's what happened. Other players/other characters can then pick up on those descriptions when the character describes it to them later, even if the character that originally investigated didn't realize themselves what was up.
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Investigations going long is especially true because you can't do checks or collect more evidence at trial. When you have trial as leeway, I think having a short amount of time or being less thorough while investigating is okay. Or at least not as potentially harmful. But since that isn't the case here, it is going to be harder to either think of what we might possibly need to check for (also note, some players won't want to do every check simply because they're afraid of finding the culprit early). Especially if characters want to do room searches for 20 people. That's something players need to coordinate among themselves, of course, but it's still a significant time investment that can take away from investigating other areas.
This seems like a good place to add this too, but I think adding in alibis to the Truth Bullets will simultaneously complicate it but also help make it so solving the timeline solves the "who?" That said, there's not really a good way to collect alibis for a massive group of people. Particularly when you give them the good ahead to post whatever they want—in my experience, alibis are most thorough when they're submitted to mods for approval. Otherwise, players tend to be vague because they don't want to overlap with the culprit and that makes them pretty useless.
I guess this is like like a +0.5?
Since I'm here, I think I wanna weigh in on Cally's B point too. I don't necessarily think you have to give everything on a piece of evidence without prompting, but I noticed you guys rolled to see how much someone got (I think from the body?) and I'm not sure that's a good idea. I don't want to go on too long about it since I'm mostly just adding opinions onto Cally's crit, but sometimes players want to check for evidence or check the body when their character isn't necessarily suited for it. Sometimes it's because they want to try it 'cause it looks fun, sometimes it's because another player with a suitable character isn't around. I know by rolling you guys mean to give players a chance to get additional information they wouldn't get otherwise, but at the same time it feels like it's punishing players too if a character more qualified just... happens to not be around because of OOC reasons.
If it helps, one of the things I kept in mind while running investigations in Uki was "characters have eyes." This is a written hobby, yes, but those words are being used to paint a picture of a scene. If the words you're using aren't depicting things that should be immediately obvious to anyone looking at it, it's best to consider rephrasing. There is some leeway here though. Like, obviously most people can't tell the difference between postmortem wounds and antemortem, but in those scenarios you can describe them in a way where it's obvious that's what happened. Other players/other characters can then pick up on those descriptions when the character describes it to them later, even if the character that originally investigated didn't realize themselves what was up.